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Hello, good friends. Good to see you again. I hope you had a great Thanksgiving break. And now, welcome back to the Bill Press Pod. As you know, on this podcast,

we talk mainly politics and big issues of the day, most of them, some version of issues I've

been talking about and I'm writing about for years. But today, to be honest, we dive into an issue

I know nothing about, almost nothing about, but which may turn out to be

the most important issue of all because it impacts everything, the economy, the environment,

education, health care, and personal lifestyles. And of course, I'm talking about AI, which in many ways, some known, some unknown, like it or not, already impacts every one of us.

Like you, perhaps, I'm totally impressed by the positive potential of AI, all the good things it can do, but I'm also afraid of its negative impacts,

all the bad things it can do, some of which we've already seen. Most of all, I just have a lot

of questions about AI. And so today, for answers, we turn to an expert. Jacob Ward is a longtime technology journalist, having covered

tech issues for NBC News, CNN, and PBS. In 2022, even before ChatGTP was launched, he published

his book, The Loop, how AI is creating a world without choices and how to fight back. And now he

covers the world of AI in his weekly podcast, The Rip Current. Jacob Ford, welcome to the

Bill Press Pod. It's so good to have you on board. Bill, I really appreciate you having me.

Thank you. First, I have to ask you, are you a real person? Am I talking to a real person here? And how do I know? Bill, Bill, I've got some questions for you. I'd like to ask you about your checking account. No, I am a real person. I know. I have, I've worked in television, so I have the dulcet tones of a somewhat fake sounding person, but I am a real human being. I will tell you,

though, it is not long before you won't really have any way to check. Even if this were a video

encounter, I think we're only a few financial quarters from there being no discernible difference

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