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slash partners in crime media. I'm Rebecca Laveoy and this is crime writers on. Crime Raiders on is the original True Crime Review podcast that digs in a

True Crime, pop culture, other podcasts and on this episode years after she left

a brutal school for trouble teens, a filmmaker returns to the

facility to confront its ghosts and its previous operators. We'll discuss the Netflix

documentary series, The Program, Kons, Cults, and Kidnapping.

Joining me to get that done and more is True Crime Author, TV journalist,

and host of,

these are their stories,

podcast, my husband, and love of my life, Kevin Flynn.

He's an idiot. Hi hi Kevin what was that all about

I know what you talk that's a reference to he's obviously not an idiot I'm

certific certifified no sir you're certififified, certifified?

No, sir, you're certififified.

So if I'm certifified.

It's my favorite moment in the thing we're about to review.

That's the only reason why I brought it into the intro.

Also with us...

I am certifified.

Also with us is private investigator, certified pet detective, resident cat lady,

and author of the final curtain, Laura Bricker.

Hello, Laura.

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