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This is Deep State Radio, coming to you direct from our super secret studio in the third

sub-basement of the Ministry of Snark in Washington, DC, and from other undisclosed locations

across America and around the world. Hello and welcome to the latest episode of the podcast

I'm your host David Rothkoff coming to you from Washington, DC. I am joined today by two of our

most esteemed friends. One, Barbara McQuade, professor at the University of Michigan School of Law,

a regular commentator on MSNBC. I assume you're up in that neck of the woods. Barb,

is that correct? I am. I'm in Michigan and I bring greetings.

Well, good to see you. And another esteemed friend, EJ Dion, of the Washington Post also teaches

at Harvard University. And I'm going to guess he's in Washington, DC. Is that where you are?

I'm in Bethesda, Maryland. I love seeing you, Happy New Year, and it's great to come on your show

because I got to be with really cool people like Barbara McQuade. So thank you.

Well, you're both very cool people for all our listeners out there who know we have focused

this week on making predictions about the era ahead. And I thought the two of you would be great

to speak to both about the future of democracy and the related politics of that and abstract

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