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But the whole reason that we're in the mess of the administrative state to begin with is because Congress has given away its legislative power and is greatly reluctant to take it back.

This is your host, Scott Bertram.

Welcome to the Radio Free Hillsdale Hour, part of the Hillsdale College Podcast Network.

That was R.J. Pistrito, author of Government by the Unelected, how it happened and how it might be tamed.

We'll go in depth with him in just a moment.

Also on today's program,

Daniel Darling will take us inside his book, in defense of Christian patriotism. First, we're joined by

Dr. R.J. Pastrito. He is Dean of the Graduate School, Professor of Politics, and Charles and Lucia

Shipley chair in the American Constitution here at Hillsdale College.

Dr. Pastrido, thanks for joining us.

Thanks for having me, Scott.

Also, the author of a brand new provocation called Government by the Unelected,

how it happened and how it might be tamed.

It's a short book.

You can find it over at Amazon.com and elsewhere, if you like. Government by

the unelected at the title. For some listeners, it might be a familiar theme. I think we've talked

about it here on the show previously. But as we begin, describe what you mean by that, government

by the unelected. Who are those unelected people? And what kind of power do they wield?

Yes, we're talking about people.

I guess the term that's been used for some time is, you know, the administrative state,

which sounds kind of opaque and mysterious and sort of semi-conspiratorial.

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