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Being married actually makes a huge difference here.

Thinking about the amount of money that comes in and out of a given family, right?

And you have to make a budget and you have to sort of figure out, you know, what's important here and how do we do that over there, right?

And so it gives people a kind of agency and it trains them for these higher, higher things.

This is your host, Scott Bertram. Welcome to the Radio Free Hillsdale Hour, part of the Hillsdale College Podcast Network.

That was Sean Riley from Hillsdale College's Washington, D.C. campus.

His recent essay is mob violence is fatal to Republican government.

We'll talk in depth with him about that in just a moment.

Also, later on today, Christina Lambert from Hillsdale's English department

continues her conversation about T.S. Eliot.

First, we're joined by Dr. Sean Riley. He is Director of Educational Programs and Teaching Fellow at Hillsdale in D.C.

Also the author of a recent piece at Americanmind.org. Mob violence is fatal to Republican government. Dr. Riley, thanks for joining us.

Thanks for having me. Appreciate it. In this essay, which again, people can find at American

mind.org, how do you define mob violence and how might that differ from protests or

civil disobedience in your view?

Yeah, good question. I guess I realizing I don't think I actually define it in the piece,

but I guess I would say violence, I mean mob violence differs from protests and civil disobedience

largely by the fact that it's violence,

right? Hopefully, protests, I mean, there are many ways to protest or engage in civil disobedience

to affect change or to express discontent with a particular political policy or political

situation, but violence sort of changes the equation, right?

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