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The Shit No One Tells You About Writing

The Problem with the Blank Canvas Protagonist

The Shit No One Tells You About Writing

Bianca Marais, Carly Watters and CeCe Lyra

How To, Books, Education, Fiction, Arts

4.8733 Ratings

🗓️ 1 May 2025

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of Books with Hooks, hosts Bianca, CeCe, and Carly first review a query letter for literary fiction, providing insights on emotional depth in character relationships. The conversation emphasizes the need for clarity in plot points and the importance of avoiding the blank canvas protagonist so readers can be engaged and connect with them. The second query letter is for a historical novel. The hosts discuss its title, plot structure, and the effectiveness of its opening pages. The conversation emphasizes the need for strong character connections, clear narrative goals, and the balance between description and story progression.

Note: Carly Watters and CeCe Lyra are literary agents at P.S. Literary Agency, but their work on this podcast is not affiliated with the agency, and the views expressed by Carly and CeCe on this podcast are solely that of them as podcast co-hosts and do not necessarily reflect the views, opinions, policies, or position of P.S. Literary Agency.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi everyone, it's Cece here.

0:03.4

If you're a fan of the podcast, then you know that one of my most common notes on the books with Hook segment is about writing emotion.

0:11.4

And that's because the best stories are the ones that make readers feel.

0:15.8

But as a storyteller, you know that pulling that off is hard work.

0:20.4

It involves not only the obvious skill of writing

0:23.8

emotion really well, but also mastering writing relationships effectively, since those emotional

0:29.8

beats involve the protagonist's relational connections. The best stories are also relationship-driven.

0:37.1

That's why I'm so excited to announce that I'm teaching a four-day class called writing emotion and relationships,

0:43.3

starting on June 18th.

0:45.3

Over the course of four days, we'll cover over 10 hours of content, including active versus passive emotions,

0:53.3

how to leverage emotions and relationships

0:56.0

into tension, showing versus telling, how to create chemistry between characters, emotional

1:02.1

calibration, and roles for various characters, from love interest to antagonist, and so much

1:08.6

more. And my favorite thing, this course will feature an interactive component.

1:13.6

Everyone who signs up will have the option of submitting a scene from their work

1:18.6

for a chance to have it critiqued during the course.

1:21.6

We did this in my starting at Wright class in March, and if you were there, you know it was a smashing success.

1:28.7

If you'd like to know more, check out the link in my bio on Instagram. I hope to see you there.

1:35.1

Come prepared to take lots of notes. It's beta reader matchup time again, where you can be matched

1:41.8

up with those writing in the same genre and or time zone,

1:45.4

so they can critique your work as you critique theirs. Your manuscript doesn't have to be

1:50.1

completed to sign up for this 3,000 word evaluation. This particular matchup will be open to

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