Nuggets of Wisdom from Carley Fortune and Sue Hincenbergs
The Shit No One Tells You About Writing
Bianca Marais, Carly Watters and CeCe Lyra
4.8 • 733 Ratings
🗓️ 8 May 2025
⏱️ 63 minutes
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Summary
In part one of this week's author interviews, Bianca sits down with Canadian superstar writer, Carley Fortune. The authors discuss her latest novel 'One Golden Summer', reflecting on her creative process, the challenges of writing under pressure, and the importance of character development. She shares insights into navigating reader expectations and the personal struggles that influence her writing. The discussion highlights the beauty of books as objects and the emotional depth required to create compelling narratives.
In the second part of this week’s episode Bianca connects with former television producer and debut novelist, Sue Hincenbergs. Sue shares her inspiring journey from aspiring writer to published author of 'The Retirement Plan.' She discusses the challenges she faced in her writing career, the evolution of her craft, and the importance of community and support in the writing process. With insights gained from Bianca's podcast, Sue highlights the significance of learning from others, the strategic approach to querying agents, and the joy of crafting humor and dialogue in her work. The discussion culminates in a celebration of literary citizenship and the excitement surrounding Sue's debut novel.
Note: Carly Watters and CeCe Lyra are literary agents at P.S. Literary Agency, but their work on this podcast is not affiliated with the agency, and the views expressed by Carly and CeCe on this podcast are solely that of them as podcast co-hosts and do not necessarily reflect the views, opinions, policies, or position of P.S. Literary Agency.
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| 0:00.0 | Hi everyone, it's Cece here. |
| 0:03.4 | If you're a fan of the podcast, then you know that one of my most common notes on the books with Hook segment is about writing emotion. |
| 0:11.4 | And that's because the best stories are the ones that make readers feel. |
| 0:15.8 | But as a storyteller, you know that pulling that off is hard work. |
| 0:20.4 | It involves not only the obvious skill of writing |
| 0:23.8 | emotion really well, but also mastering writing relationships effectively, since those emotional |
| 0:29.8 | beats involve the protagonist's relational connections. The best stories are also relationship-driven. |
| 0:37.1 | That's why I'm so excited to announce that I'm teaching a four-day class called writing emotion and relationships, |
| 0:43.3 | starting on June 18th. |
| 0:45.3 | Over the course of four days, we'll cover over 10 hours of content, including active versus passive emotions, |
| 0:53.3 | how to leverage emotions and relationships |
| 0:56.0 | into tension, showing versus telling, how to create chemistry between characters, emotional |
| 1:02.1 | calibration, and roles for various characters, from love interest to antagonist, and so much |
| 1:08.6 | more. And my favorite thing, this course will feature an interactive component. |
| 1:13.6 | Everyone who signs up will have the option of submitting a scene from their work |
| 1:18.6 | for a chance to have it critiqued during the course. |
| 1:21.6 | We did this in my starting at Wright class in March, and if you were there there you know it was a smashing success. |
| 1:28.7 | If you'd like to know more, check out the link in my bio on Instagram. I hope to see you there. |
| 1:35.1 | Come prepared to take lots of notes. |
| 1:51.0 | Hi there and welcome to our show. The Ship No One Tells You About Writing. I'm Bianca Marais and I'm joined by Carly Waters and C.C. Lira from PS Literary Agency. |
| 1:57.8 | Hi everyone. We're really excited to have a return guest today. She probably needs no |
| 2:03.8 | introduction, but we're going to give her one anyway. So she is the number one New York Times |
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