"The Problem With Covid Contrarianism" with Cathy Young
Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps
Josh Szeps
4.5 • 905 Ratings
🗓️ 9 February 2022
⏱️ 80 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | What an amazing time to be alive. |
| 0:02.7 | What an amazing time to be watching the news and having conversations about the news |
| 0:06.9 | and consuming all kinds of bits and pieces and opinions from hither and thither. |
| 0:11.8 | Like a little bowerbird pecking around the internet and social media, |
| 0:16.8 | trying to figure out what's true and what's not. |
| 0:19.2 | But also what an amazing time to be susceptible and vulnerable to stridency, to misinformation, |
| 0:28.2 | to what aboutism, to people trying to distract us from what really matters, |
| 0:33.3 | jangling keys in front of our face in order to get us to look over here instead of remaining |
| 0:38.4 | stable and calm and even keeled about our own opinions, our own vision of the truth. Now is a moment |
| 0:46.6 | to reach across aisles, to set aside differences, to have faith in democracy, to have faith |
| 0:53.7 | in bigger ambitions and |
| 0:55.2 | bigger things to believe in than just the day-to-day. The only way we can do that is by having |
| 1:01.2 | conversations that resonate with all of us, conversations that make sense to all of us, conversations |
| 1:06.9 | that are difficult, conversations that are important, conversations that are, as always, a little bit uncomfortable. |
| 1:24.4 | Today on the show, a terrific individual, an individual with whom I just wish I'd had more time. |
| 1:30.3 | That was my only regret, because sometimes you speak with someone and they give very short, |
| 1:36.0 | carefully thought out answers. Kathy is not that sort of a person. Kathy wouldn't do that to you. |
| 1:41.8 | She wouldn't give you a little sound bite. She will go careening |
| 1:45.2 | off into her own universe of thoughts about something. And I have to use all of my stamina just |
| 1:50.8 | to get a word in edgeways. And I use my journalistically well approved of technique of interrupting |
| 1:57.9 | her incessantly to try to get a shut up about whatever she's talking about |
| 2:01.2 | and start talking about what I want to talk about, but I don't even want her to talk about |
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