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Today's episode is a little bit different.

This was actually an event hosted by the Intercollegiate Studies Institute that featured myself alongside Glenn Lowry, who, as many of you know, is an economist at Brown University and host of the Glenn Show at Blogging Heads.

I thought the conversation was a good one, so I'm releasing it as a standalone podcast.

This conversation is a big-picture discussion of the problem of race in America today, the narratives that compete for space in the

mainstream media, and the path forward. I hope you enjoy this one as much as I did. Without further

ado, Glenn Lowry.

But we're going to jump right in in just a second here, but I just want to let all you guys know who are logging on that the latter half of our conversation will be centered on your

questions. So you're welcome to go ahead and start dropping the questions

in the Q&A box, which you'll see on the right on your screen right next to the chat box.

So make sure you put them in the Q&A tab rather than the chat tab so they don't get lost.

Let's go ahead and start the discussion off by defining some terms. We go into the discussion today.

So I'd just like to ask kind of broadly, how would you guys define racism?

And how is that different from how the term is being used today?

That's a big question.

Well, no, I mean, the obvious thing to say here is something like, this is not a scientific definition, but it's just a sort of common sense.

This is a hatred or antipathy, an unreasoning disdain, a belief in derogatory, you know, characteristics of a group without

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