The Prisoner Who Escaped Twice. The Murders of Michael and Melvyn
REDRUM true crime
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🗓️ 15 September 2025
⏱️ 36 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Shortly after midnight, barring a last minute stay, a prisoner in Utah will be executed for a murder he committed nearly a quarter century ago. |
| 0:08.5 | And at his own request, it will be death by firing squad. |
| 0:12.6 | In 1985, a man is being escorted through a basement underneath a courthouse. |
| 0:17.9 | He's a convicted killer. |
| 0:20.1 | But waiting for him is a woman with a |
| 0:23.5 | pistol hidden under her clothes. And she would manage to get that pistol to this man. And with that, |
| 0:29.1 | he would end up killing someone, wounding others, and actually escaping as well. And this wasn't |
| 0:36.5 | the first time that he had escaped prison. |
| 0:39.8 | This is Red Rum, stories about the true victims of crime. I upload on Mondays, a video version, |
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| 0:52.4 | So our case today is it's sent us around a man called Ronnie Lee Gardner. |
| 0:57.1 | He's 23 years old and by this point he's already got an incredibly long and complex criminal record. |
| 1:03.7 | He dropped out of school in the fourth grade and from that point on, things were pretty challenging, shall we say. He started using drugs really, |
| 1:14.3 | really early on. He would fund that drug habit by stealing from anyone, family, friends. |
| 1:19.9 | He even started stealing and robbing from establishments like shops and companies and |
| 1:26.7 | anywhere he could break into, really. and the drugs that he was using were |
| 1:30.9 | cocaine and heroin mainly now when he got caught which he did a number of times he was taken to |
| 1:38.4 | prison but prison really wasn't much of a deterrent in fact he, those prison stays, as a kind of training ground. |
| 1:46.5 | He would watch the guards shift patterns. He would also have a look at how high the walls were, |
| 1:53.3 | trying to plot and plan as to how he might escape, especially if he was ever in there for a longer |
| 1:59.5 | period of time. He'd already made one failed prison |
| 2:03.9 | escape attempt a little while earlier. He'd actually scaled up to the top of the walls in this Utah |
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