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Hello Monday with Jessi Hempel

The price women pay to be good with Elise Loehnen

Hello Monday with Jessi Hempel

LinkedIn

Careers, Business

4.81.1K Ratings

🗓️ 22 May 2023

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Whether or not we are individually religious, a lot of our lives are governed by our relationships to what the Christian church calls the Seven Deadly Sins - pride, greed, lust, envy, gluttony, wrath, and sloth. As Elise Loehnen explores in her new book, On Our Best Behavior: The Seven Deadly Sins and the Price Women Pay to be Good, that leads us to uphold patriarchy, and sometimes to hurt ourselves and each other. But it doesn’t have to be this way. In a candid conversation driven by curiosity and hope, Elise and Jessi explore what we stand to gain when we re-examine our most complicated feelings. Follow Elise Loehnen on LinkedIn, and check out her new book. Follow Jessi Hempel on LinkedIn and order her debut memoir. Join the Hello Monday community: Subscribe to the Hello Monday newsletter, and join us on the LinkedIn News page for Hello Monday Office Hours, Wednesdays at 3p ET. Join our new LinkedIn group for Hello Monday listeners and continue this week’s conversation here: https://lnkd.in/hellomondaygroup

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0:00.0

Hey, I'm Michael Covnet, host of The Next Big Idea Daily.

0:04.1

The show is a masterclass in better living from some of the smartest writers around.

0:08.9

Every morning, Monday through Friday, we'll serve up a quick 10-minute lesson on how to

0:13.2

strengthen your relationships, supercharge your creativity, boost your productivity, and

0:18.2

more.

0:19.2

Follow The Next Big Idea Daily wherever you get your podcasts.

0:30.7

From the news team at LinkedIn, I'm Josie Hempel, and this is Hello Monday.

0:38.8

Three years ago, I went to Miami to record an episode of Hello Monday live at a digital media conference.

0:45.3

My guest for that episode was Elise Lunin, who back then was number two at Goop, a media juggernaut,

0:53.0

a women's media juggernaut to be specific.

0:56.0

The audience was mostly dudes, and to be honest, they didn't get us.

1:00.3

But over a couple of days in Miami, Elise and I got time for long chats about everything from

1:05.3

our careers, to whether we trusted our intuition, to what we were learning about parenting.

1:11.5

Did I mention that was my very first business trip away from Jude?

1:15.7

He was still so tiny back then.

1:18.4

Anyhow, that was a formative few days for me.

1:21.5

In the mornings, I hold up in my hotel room and finished the book proposal for what would become

1:26.2

the family outing. As it turns out, it was a pretty important event for Elise too.

1:32.0

On the flight home, she came up with a book idea.

1:34.9

Not long after that, she left Goop to write the book, and it has just come out.

1:40.0

It's called On Our Best Behavior, the seven deadly sins and the price women pay to be good.

1:46.8

And it's all about how we all unwittingly hold up the patriarchy.

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