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Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

The Price of $5 Donations: Is Small-Dollar Fund-Raising Doing More Harm Than Good?

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

New York Times Opinion

New York Times, Journalism, News, Society & Culture, Ross Douthat

4.07.2K Ratings

🗓️ 2 November 2022

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

As midterm frenzy reaches its peak, your inbox might be full of imploring fund-raising emails with increasingly desperate headlines: “Just $3 can make all the difference.” “Can you chip in today?” “Ultimately, it’s up to you.” In theory, the small-dollar donation model is a good thing: It enables voters to have a say in who their candidates are and counterbalances the influence of superdonors and industry lobbyists. But as extremist candidates increasingly adopt grass-roots approaches and self-fund-raise their way into Congress, could small-dollar donations be doing more harm to our democracy than good? Today’s guests come to the debate from different positions. Tim Miller is a former Republican strategist and current writer at large for The Bulwark who believes that there are real dangers to the grass-roots model. “Our online fund-raising system is not only enriching scam artists, clogging our inboxes and inflaming the electorate; it is also empowering our politics’ most nefarious actors,” Miller wrote recently in a guest essay for Times Opinion. On the other side is Micah Sifry, a co-founder of Civic Hall and the writer of The Connector, a newsletter about democracy, organizing and tech. Sifry thinks that, yes, small-dollar donations fund extremists, but they can also enable progressive politicians to hold powerful interests accountable as independently funded candidates. “Some politicians are going to get money for their campaigns who I disagree with, but you’ve got to live with that because the alternative is oligarchy,” Sifry says. Mentioned in this episode: “The Most Toxic Politicians Are Dragging Us to Hell With Emails and Texts,” by Tim Miller in The New York Times “Fed Up With Democratic Emails? You’re Not the Only One.” by Lara Putnam and Micah Sifry in The New York Times “Don’t Blame Our Toxic Politics on Online Fund-raising,” by Micah Sifry in Medium (A full transcript of the episode will be available midday on the Times website.)

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0:00.0

Hey, it's Jane.

0:01.8

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It's hosted by my colleague, Lulu Garcia Nivaro, who has spent her career getting people to

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open up and tell their story.

0:15.3

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shootings.

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But the thing about this show is that they find someone with a perspective most of us haven't

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heard before.

0:26.1

During this most recent episode, Lulu talks to the sheriff of Utah County, Mike Smith,

0:30.5

because Sheriff's Most Passion project is teaching teachers how to conceal Kerry in

0:34.2

the classroom.

0:35.8

He trains teachers how to protect their students for the minutes before police arrive at the

0:39.5

school.

0:40.5

And Lulu goes to that training.

0:42.0

And I'm telling you about this episode now, because if you listen today, you'll be ready

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for their new episode tomorrow, which follows a teacher who took Sheriff's Most Class,

0:51.0

and is deciding whether to conceal Kerry in the classroom.

0:54.5

So download and subscribe to the show First Person wherever you're listening to this.

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It's the argument.

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I'm Jane Coston.

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