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Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

Donald Trump Was the Midterm’s Biggest Loser

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

New York Times Opinion

New York Times, Journalism, News, Society & Culture, Ross Douthat

4.07.2K Ratings

🗓️ 9 November 2022

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

As midterm election results continue to trickle in, one thing is clear: There’s no predicting American voters. After an unexpected showing for Democrats in tight races across the country, Jane Coaston speaks with the Times editorial board member Michelle Cottle and Times Opinion columnist Ross Douthat to recap what happened at the polls. Together they discuss how the Democrats won “the expectations game,” who had the worst night (Donald Trump) and what the clouded results reveal about the bigger story of American democracy. “What we are looking at is an electorate that is feeling unsettled, and neither party made the case that they were going to provide the strength, stability, normalcy to create a wave election,” Cottle says. (A full transcript of the episode will be available on the Times website.)

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0:00.0

Okay, all right, are we more or less ready?

0:03.5

Emotionally?

0:05.0

This is gonna be an unusually unhinged episode of the argument.

0:08.0

Because I think collectively we've gotten,

0:11.0

you've gotten like three hours of sleep maybe.

0:13.0

I've gotten like four.

0:16.0

And Ross, you have small children.

0:17.0

I don't know what you're doing.

0:18.0

I'm drawing the school.

0:19.0

Ross hasn't slept since like 2007.

0:23.0

All right.

0:25.0

It's the argument.

0:27.0

I'm Jane Coaston.

0:29.0

I'm joined by Time's Opinion columnist, Ross Dalfit.

0:35.0

Hey, Jane.

0:36.0

And Time's editorial board member, Michelle Coddle.

0:39.0

Jane, how are you?

0:40.0

I am here and I'm awake.

0:42.0

So, good morning.

0:44.0

We're recording this some morning after the election,

0:46.0

though results are still coming in.

0:49.0

So let's talk about the results or what we know so far.

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