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Hello and welcome to Whistlestop a podcast of campaign curiosities

presidential greatness edition I'm John Dickerson of Face the Nation. Well, we are back. Although in a slightly different form, this

podcast started as an

experiment. And after 36 episodes we're going to call in an even three dozen in

phase one of the experiment. Construction on phase two begins now, which is to say

that we are going to turn our attention to other matters. First, we're going to

look into why we refer to ourselves in the third person. Second, we're going to take on the presidency, shifting the content of this podcast,

not from the antics of those trying to get into the White House, but to the antics of those who were successful in getting there.

The campaign version of Whistlestop was animated in part by the 2016 campaign raging

around it.

We have a new president now, Donald Trump, and so we have a new sense of animation.

My interest in the presidential campaign has always been driven by my interest in whether

or not campaigns show us anything about whether the candidate is fit for the office of the

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