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Whistlestop: Presidential History and Trivia

October Surprise, the 1964 Edition | The '60s

Whistlestop: Presidential History and Trivia

Slate Podcasts

Politics, History, News, Government

4.81.4K Ratings

🗓️ 2 November 2016

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

With this Whistlestop John Dickerson revisits October 7, 1964 and the October surprise of the Johnson-Goldwater Presidential race.


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Whistlestop is Slate’s podcast about presidential campaign history. Hosted by our political correspondent and Political Gabfest panelist John Dickerson, each installment will revisit a memorable (or even a forgotten) moment from America's quadrennial carnival.


Podcast production and edit by Jocelyn Frank. Research by Brian Rosenwald.


Email: whistlestop@slate.com


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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Whistle Stop, a podcast of campaign curiosities. I'm John Dickerson, host of Face the Nation.

0:18.9

It's October. Surprise! The 2016 presidential campaign has had an October surprise. Of course,

0:26.1

you're supposed to have one of them, what this entire month of October has felt like a surprise

0:30.8

in the campaign of 2016. The latest thing to jump out from behind the curtain is the decision by

0:35.9

FBI director Comey to announce

0:38.3

that his team of investigators have a new batch of emails that might or might not shed light on

0:42.9

the closed investigation into Hillary Clinton's use of her private server.

0:47.0

The new information was contained on a laptop owned by the husband of Hillary Clinton's

0:51.4

right-hand woman, Huma Abidine, her husband, Anthony Wiener,

0:56.1

former congressman, who is at this date under investigation for sending explicit texts to a 15-year-old.

1:04.8

Now, everyone hearing this knows these details, but at times with this election, you get the

1:09.1

feeling that you're at the beginning of a dark period in

1:11.5

history people in the future in some post-apocalyptic world will replay the tapes of what happened in

1:17.5

2016 as they look for the initiating event into into what led to the apocalypse so when they're doing

1:23.6

so in some mountain cave in 2242 i just want to make sure that there is an accurate record

1:29.0

of what happened. But that's not our topic today. The topic of close AIDS, October surprises,

1:36.0

the FBI, and the whiff of scandal is reminding me of an abandoned in 1964 presidential race. There was an October

1:46.0

surprise disclosed it a little bit about the same time, a tiny bit earlier in the race. A close

1:50.9

aide to Lyndon Johnson. Walter Jenkins, as close as Huma Abidon, was caught in a scandal that ignited

1:56.3

a conversation in the campaign about homosexuality, moral behavior, investigative tactics, Cold War

2:02.6

fears of national security lapses, and solicited a response from LBJ at the end that would make

2:08.2

Donald Trump proud. And there's also another element of the response that LBJ had that could

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