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This is C.J. Ortiz, the metal motivator.

And we're going to go into a deep discussion with Pat McNamara.

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Now, let's go into the interview with Pat Mac.

Tonight we're going to talk about positive thinking.

And I want this for public consumption as well, which is why I kept some of the questions for Mac a bit basic because I think a lot of people, I think they would be interested to hear your particular thoughts on it, you know, as opposed to just that tactical mindset kind of thing. Let's just get into something just more basic, a basic optimistic outlook and that sort of thing.

However, if any of you have been listening to Mac for some time,

particularly this year, he's talked about a couple of things.

One has been kids, which we showed the new kids video he did last week.

But he says, he talks about curiosity with kids.

He talks about kids being interested in things.

But he also talks about this very same thing for adults that, you know, somebody has to be

interested, to be interesting.

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