You're listening to be here. Hello and welcome to SpyCast from the Secret Files of the International Spy Museum in Washington, D.C.

I'm Mark Stout historian at the museum. I'm a PhD

author and historian who served for 13 years as an analyst in the U.S.

Intelligence Community. Every month the museum brings you interesting talks

with authors, scholars, and practitioners

who has something to do with the world of intelligence and espionage.

We're joined today by Arno H.P. Roycer who works for the Dutch Defense Intelligence and

Security Service where he was founder and former manager of that service's open source intelligence unit,

and actually open source intelligence will be our topic today.

Currently he's the senior policy advisor for the Dutch Intelligence and Security Service on open source,

intelligence, and cyber.

And he also heads the Roycer Information Services Company, among other things, educating both businesses and

actually a number of intelligence services around the country on how to do open source intelligence.

We're pleased to welcome him here to the International Spy Museum.

We're speaking to him, he's in the Hague right now, but before we get started, as he's a government

employee in the Netherlands, he asked me to issue this disclaimer.

All answers are Mr. Roycer's own opinion based on his

experience and professional judgment and none of these answers refer to any

official statement or policy either of the Dutch service for which he works or for the Dutch government.

With that out of the way, Arnold Reiser, welcome to the International Spy Museum.

Thank you very much.

Well, as I say, our topic today is going to be open source intelligence but I will also say

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