You're Hello and welcome to Spycast from the Secret Files of the International Spy Museum in

Washington DC. I'm Mark Stout historian of the museum. I'm a PhD author and historian who served for 13 years as an analyst in the U.S. Intelligence Community.

Every month, the museum brings you interesting talks with authors,

scholars, and practitioners who has something to do with the world of

intelligence and espionage.

We're joined today by Tom Glenn.

Tom is a former member of the National Security Agency, America's Signal Intelligence Agency.

He served with NSA from 1961 to 1992.

He was therefore a cryptologist, a linguist, has seven languages as I understand it.

Something I'm in awe of.

And he worked undercover for quite a number of years

for NSA.

He is or has also been a musician, a government executive,

a caregiver for the dying, a leadership coach, and perhaps in, you might say these days, first and

foremost a writer.

He's got a bachelor's degree in music from the University of California, and master's degrees in,ate from the George Washington University.

The Doctorate was in public administration.

For the better part of 13 years, he shuttled back and forth between Vietnam and the United States for NSA while operating

under cover and in 1975 he was actually evacuated under fire when Saigon fell and that long

war came to an end. I think we'll talk a little bit about that.

As a writer, much of his, he's primarily a fiction writer.

Much of his published fiction focuses on Vietnam and he also is a book reviewer

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