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It doesn't care where you come from, what you look like, your credit score, or your outrageous food delivery habits.

crypto is finance for everyone, everywhere all the time.

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lose all the money you invest. This is a high-risk investment and you should not

expect to be protected if something goes wrong. In general, I try not to look away from the problems

in the world. I mean, I've built a whole show that really forces me to think about them.

But climate change, that's a rough one.

I think for most of us, not just for me.

It's big and intimidating, and I don't know what I'm supposed to do about it.

What I even could do about it.

The whole thing makes me pessimistic about where we're heading and as a parent that's just not a place I want to be

So I distract myself. I try to avoid that dread.

Every now and again, though, something comes along.

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