Did they fail you? That is our job and I tell you that's why I'm here. So let's get us what we need so our firefighters can do their jobs.

Did they fail you? Yes. When a firefighter comes up to a hydrant, we expect there's going to be water. We don't control the water supply.

Our firefighters are there to protect lives and property and to make sure that we're properly trained and equipped.

Does the buck stop with you?

I mean, hey, you're governor of California.

You're inviting them to be the mayor of California.

We're all in this together.

We're all better off.

We're all better off.

We're all better off.

We're all better off.

And we're working together to take care of people.

So the first clip happened on Friday. Friday, it's LA Fire Chief, Kristen Crowley. They had to drag the answer out of her, but she

finally did offer up, yes, they, the city council, and the mayor failed us. And then Gavin

Newsom asked this morning or last night, does the buck stop with you? Ah, hama, humana, humana,

a bad answer politically. Indeed.

To discuss the politics and the realities of the fire and how they intertwine,

please welcome to the show, the editor-in-chief of the California Globe,

Katie Grimes, who's been writing about California politics for ages and ages.

Katie, how are you?

I am well.

Thanks for having me, Jack and Joe. Oh, it's always a

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