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TALKING POLITICS

The Politics of Loneliness

TALKING POLITICS

Catherine Carr

News, News & Politics

4.72.5K Ratings

🗓️ 3 September 2020

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

David talks to economist and author Noreena Hertz about loneliness and its impact on all our lives. How does the experience of loneliness shape contemporary democracy? What kind of politics could make us feel more connected? Can technology bring us together or is it driving us further apart? Plus we discuss the consequences of the pandemic for the future of work and the possibility of building a better world.


Loneliness has been rising among young people over recent years: 3 in 5 18-34 year olds feel lonely often or sometimes; nearly a half of 10-15 year olds.

  • Lockdown has likely exacerbated these numbers.
  • So much of the interaction between young people is online; parents can’t see the exclusion.


Loneliness is political as well as personal, social as well as economic.

  • Exclusion and marginalisation are also forms of loneliness.
  • Can loneliness bridge generational divides?
  • In the pandemic, we are all sharing a negative experience—will this produce solidarity or divisions? 


What solutions do politicians provide for solidarity?

  • In recent times, the left hasn’t provided a strong alternative notion of solidarity.
  • The diminishment of trade unions and workplace solidarity play a part here as well. 
  • What politician will speak for the lonely?


Democracy produces certain kinds of visibility and excludes others. What would it look like to be more open to the lonely?

  • There is a skillset associated with inclusive democracy that we are in danger of losing.
  • There are inspiring examples of participatory democracy on the local level.
  • In a lonely world, representative democracy filters out the lonely.


If loneliness is the problem, and human beings are increasingly socially inept, the machines might step in.

  • In Japan, robot-human interaction is widespread, especially among the elderly.
  • What will increasingly intelligent robots do to our relationships with each other?


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0:00.0

Hello, my name is David Ronserman and this is Talking Politics. Today I'm talking to the

0:11.3

economist and author Nareena Hertz about loneliness. Why are we also lonely and what does it mean

0:19.2

for our politics?

0:23.7

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1:01.4

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1:06.8

Nareena Hertz's new book is called The Lonely Century. It is about the many different kinds of

1:17.9

loneliness that people experience. She's talked to a lot of people, including a lot of

1:22.1

lonely people. What's so interesting about this book is how it goes from personal experience

1:26.9

to some of the very biggest themes, including the themes we talk about on Talking Politics.

1:31.8

Nareena, one of the really striking things about your book is it describes so many different

1:36.6

kinds of loneliness and so many different kinds of lives that are affected by loneliness

1:42.8

and to say up front one of the things that really interests me about this is that it

1:47.0

cuts across what we tend to think of now as the big political divides. Young people are

1:52.5

really lonely on your account and older people are really lonely. People in isolated rural

1:58.2

communities are lonely but also people in what before Covid with the teaming cities are

2:03.1

lonely. To start with, I just like to discuss these different kinds of loneliness. Maybe

2:07.8

we could start with young and old. In your research, you talked to lots of people you've

2:11.6

looked into this really in depth. What is the experience of loneliness for the young

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