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I have several things in common with my guest in this episode.

Victoria Schmidt-Nielsen and I were both born into Soviet republics.

We both became chess grandmasters, and we both left chess to enter politics.

I think it is fair to say that while I reached greater heights in the chess world,

as a former speaker of the Lysuania legislature, she definitely rose higher in the political world. Her home

of Vilnius Lysuania has a special place in my heart. My first chess baptism by fire outside my home

city, Baku, Azerbaijan, came at the old Union youth games in Vilnius in 1973. I was just 10, while most of my opponents were four, five years

older. I did not perform well, but I did meet Alexander Sergeiovich Nikitin, state trainer of the

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