Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the podcast of Loat Saddam, Thursday the 29th of January, where we will be debating whether Jesus should have actually kicked the money changes out of the temple. No, I'm joking. We were just having it. Just before we went on camera. I'm joined by Ferris and Josh. Hello. I'll see what I have to put up with. Today we're going to be talking about is it over for reform already?

Because it might be.

We're going to go inside the mind of a lib when they're presented with some facts and logic.

And then we're going to talk about the upending of Britain and how Labour are actually doing

really insanely structural things to the country with zero mandate and we're not paying close enough

attention to that but before we begin if you can get a copy of islander off the store now good luck

because it is 95% sold and there aren't any left in america so you'd have to go to the worldwide

stores so don't wait basically is what i would advise. But all right, let's begin.

Okay, so the next election is set to be no later than the 15th of August 2029, which is quite a long way away, really.

Perhaps too far away to make predictions about, you know, results and things.

But I thought it would be interesting to look at reform

because there's been a significant drop in their polling recently. And I wanted to examine some of the

reasons with both of you as to why that might be and also whether they can recover from this. And

my sort of spoiler alert opinion is, you know, it's all up in the air at the minute.

We don't really know, but there is reason to think that perhaps maybe they've peaked.

Maybe if Shabana Mahmoud defects to reform, that'll fix that.

Yes, sure.

Her digital panopticon would be wonderful.

That'll be nice.

So in September of 2025 of course there were polling around 35% and this is obviously just one poll but there were also others

here's an Ipsos poll of course widely touted as one of the more reliable ones, or at least

as far as polling goes, here they are at 34%. So in September, it seemed like a lot of the polling

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