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The Documentary Podcast

The Pledge

The Documentary Podcast

BBC

Society & Culture, Documentary, Personal Journals

4.32.6K Ratings

🗓️ 7 February 2019

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

On college campuses across the United States, students die every year as a result of “hazing” - sometimes violent and dangerous rituals designed to initiate new members into a group to which they pledge loyalty.

In 2011, Pam and Robert Champion Sr. lost their son Robert to a hazing incident. Robert was a student at Florida A&M University and a drum major in the college’s prestigious marching band, the Marching 100. He was brutally beaten to death by his fellow band members in an initiation rite known as "Crossing Bus C." Even though this ritual was prohibited, it was widely condoned, accepted, even encouraged, and going through it was considered an essential part of band membership.

Today hazing remains rife in all types of groups, from sports teams to all-male fraternities and all-female sororities, the so-called “Greek Letter Organisations” since the names of these social groups are taken from the Greek alphabet.

With around 220 deaths attributed to hazing since records began, producer and presenter Nicolas Jackson asks why so many are willing to risk so much in order to become members of a group, and just what can be done to stop it.

Producer and presenter: Nicolas Jackson

“The Pledge” is an Afonica production for BBC World Service

(Image: Family and friends Of Armando Villa call for an end to fraternity "hazing." Credit: Luis Sinco/Los Angeles Times via Getty Images)

Transcript

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0:00.0

Crossing Bus Sea was a well organized event.

0:04.4

You knew who was going to be doing it.

0:06.3

You knew when it was going to happen.

0:07.8

You did not get on the Bus Sea unless you were going to be part of it, the people that are the perpetrators, or unless you're

0:15.7

going to be the victim that's going through.

0:17.6

There was no spectators.

0:19.4

On bus see what an individual is supposed to do is to at the front of the bus place both of their

0:25.0

hands on the top rail of the bus. If it's a male they have no shirt on. The girls have their

0:31.6

bra on.

0:33.0

I'm Nicholas Jackson, and this is the pledge on BBC World Service.

0:37.0

I'm talking to Pam and Robert Champion Senior

0:40.0

in their

0:45.0

life in the United States, about the tragedy that turned their lives upside down

0:47.0

eight years ago, when their son Robert was killed.

0:50.0

15 members on their side and 15 members on

0:52.8

us at least 30 people and you go straight down the bus

0:56.6

try to reach the back while all those people are

0:59.5

beating you and stomping you in you with in instrument they might have.

1:04.0

On your back, your chest, your front, they're not supposed to hit your face.

1:08.0

You may be able to see those bruises.

1:10.0

And if you get to the back of the bus,

1:13.0

that where it's supposed to end.

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