Purdue, they've been selling these organic, gluten-free chicken tenders. The ingredient list looked

great. There's no seed oils on there. And good on this mom, she was like, they're breaded.

What are they frying these in? So she calls up Purdue and they're like, oh yeah, we do use seed oils.

There's some loophole. They don't have to list it. This is the stuff that makes moms in America feel

defeated. I know. It's really hard. We will all get a lot healthier if we behave in a way that is consistent

with the way we used to live in terms of how we treated nature. We have forgotten how to take care

of each other. And the grass loophole is an example of that. Is RFK Jr. looking into the grass

loophole? That's been part of his platform from the beginning,

is to close that loophole so that conflicted companies

who want these new chemicals to exist for their own products

can't be the ones that say they're fine.

We just have to have some humility that we don't know everything,

and that when we start playing God and creating molecules and chemicals and genetically modifying things,

and we expect that it's all going to turn out okay because we're great at science.

God's a lot better than us, and we have to respect the way that things were created.

We have to have humility that there's a lot we don't know.

Music to have humility that there's a lot we don't know. Today on the show, I am taking you behind the scenes of big food.

How it works, how we got here, just how corrupt it is, and some of the really sneaky tricks that they're starting to implement in a lot of

the brands and food items that you think are cleaner, better options. It's diabolical stuff,

and I have Jason Karp to talk to us all about it. Jason Karp is the founder of Human Co. And this is

such an incredible man in front of mine. We met when we testified

at the Senate with RFK Jr. in September of 2024 and testified at Kellogg's together. And then

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