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Negotiate Anything

The Pitch That Embarrassed a Negotiation Professor - Patrick Leddin

Negotiate Anything

American Negotiation Institute

Business, Self-improvement, Education

4.7747 Ratings

🗓️ 9 April 2026

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

Patrick Leddin reveals the negotiation mindset that helped him close a 50/50 book deal with James Patterson — and the one relationship trap that nearly cost him everything. Patrick Leddin is a professor at Vanderbilt University, former U.S. Army Ranger, and co-author of the New York Times bestselling book Disrupt Everything — co-written with James Patterson. He has taught negotiation and leadership for over a decade, and his work has been brought to life as a Franklin Covey course: Disrupt Everything: Innovate for Impact. In this episode, Patrick unpacks the surprising link between disruption and negotiation — and why the habits of a positive disruptor make you a sharper negotiator. Connect with Patrick Leddin: Website: patrickleddin.com / disrupteverything.com Buy The Book: Disrupt Everything Community: Share your disruption story at the community page on his website Franklin Covey Course: Disrupt Everything: Innovate for Impact Contact ANI ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Request A Customized Workshop For Your Company⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kwame Christian on LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠negotiateanything.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Click here to buy your copy of Finding Confidence in Conflict: How to Negotiate Anything and Live Your Best Life!

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0:00.0

How do you react when life throws you a surprise that stops you in your tracks?

0:04.7

Most of us try to avoid these moments at all costs, but today's guest argues that these

0:10.0

interruptions are actually the best ground for new ideas and progress. Patrick Leden is a true

0:16.3

leader in the area of disruption and a high-level negotiation expert. He's a professor at Vanderbilt University,

0:22.6

a former captain in the U.S. Army, and the co-author of the New York Times bestselling book,

0:27.9

Disrupt Everything, and that was written alongside the world-famous author James Patterson.

0:33.3

In this episode, Patrick explains why staying with the status quo is a trap and how you can

0:38.3

develop the habits of a positive disruptor. We explore the powerful link between disruption and

0:43.8

negotiation, the life-changing impact of making small changes about our personal relationships,

0:48.9

and Patrick's incredible story about how he negotiated a partnership with the world's most popular author,

0:55.8

James Patterson. If you want to learn how to turn life's unexpected twist into your greatest

1:00.5

opportunities, this conversation is for you. Let's jump in. This episode is brought to you by

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certain states, prices subject to underwriting and health questions. You have a very, very unique background because you're, I can't think of anybody

1:49.0

else who's truly a thought leader in disruption.

1:51.6

I'm sure you probably are more familiar with the space than me, but I think it's a unique

1:55.2

nexus between disruption and also high level negotiation expertise., of course, when we get to the book,

2:02.4

we're going to talk about disrupt everything. But I want to highlight the point that you have this

2:07.4

unique background between the nexus between disruption and negotiation. I want to get your idea

2:13.1

on how that impacts your perspective as a professional?

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