Welcome to the occult rejects.

In this episode, I'm flying solo.

I had two other people just kind of cancel me in the last 48 hours.

So it is just me, but I got the man himself.

Somebody always like having on.

Always a pleasure.

We got William Ramsey.

And he hit me up a few days ago and he was telling me that he was working on the Pilgrim Society.

And if I would be interested on covering that and I said, hell yeah, man.

Don't know much about it myself.

I've heard it a bunch of times.

And it is a topic that has actually been brought up to me to cover on the show.

So I figured, you know, to kill two birds with one stone right here.

So, uh, thank you very much, William, for offering to come on. And, uh, please let everybody know,

well, where they can find your stuff for the new listeners who may not know who you are.

Yeah, I have a podcast that's in the top point five percent of podcasts in the world where

William Ramsey investigates just

basic investigative journalism on a lot of subjects. And I was asked by Charlie Robinson of the

great podcast macroaggressions to look into this topic. I think it fits into his show very well.

It was something that I had heard about. Like I've had very big understandings, but

once I really started to look into it, I realized how important it is as Americans to understand

this kind of a fairly new group that started 1902, 1903. But really, they talk about this story of the

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