The Pieces of the Mueller Puzzle

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🗓️ 20 July 2018

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Virginia Heffernan talks to Garrett Graff, a contributor at WIRED and the executive director of the Aspen Institute’s Cybersecurity & Technology Program, about the shape of the Mueller investigation. How has the role of Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein evolved over the last year? Plus, what's the mood amongst intelligence officials at the Aspen Security Forum? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	We have some breaking news. The White House has announced on Twitter that Vladimir Putin is coming to the White House in the fall.
0:07.0	Say that again.
0:09.0	My view has changed, which is that Russia attempted to interfere with the last election.
0:20.0	The Russian effort to influence the 2016 presidential campaign is just one tree in a growing forest.
0:28.0	That's going to be special.
0:35.0	Hello and welcome to Trumpcast. I'm Virginia Heffernin. I'm going to open short and sweet today because we just recorded the interview and I pretty much say everything I need to say with my guest.
0:48.0	Everything I need to say for now, I mean, my guest is a hero of mine, Garrett Graff, and we're going to talk about Rod Rosenstein, Robert Mueller, and how this all comes out.
0:58.0	Really, we're going to talk about the Trump checkmate, or at least guess about it, because really, only the shadow knows.
1:07.0	I'll be back with Garrett in just a moment, but first, the tweets.
1:12.0	I told you so. The European Union just slapped a $5 billion fine on one of our great companies, Google.
1:30.0	They truly have taken advantage of the US, but not for long.
1:37.0	Quote. Trump recognized Russian meddling many times.
1:44.0	Close quote. Thank you to Fox and friends and Fox News for actually showing the clips.
1:52.0	The fake news wants no part of that narrative. Too bad they don't want to focus on all of the economic and jobs records being set.
2:07.0	The fake news media wants so badly to see a major confrontation with Russia, even a confrontation that could lead to war.
2:19.0	They're pushing so recklessly hard and hate the fact that I'll probably have a great relationship with Putin.
2:29.0	We're doing much better than any other country.
2:35.0	The fake news media is going crazy. They make up stories without any backup sources approved.
2:44.0	Many other stories grit about me. And the good people surrounding me are total fiction.
2:51.0	Problem is, when you complain, you just give them more publicity. But I can blame anyone.
3:04.0	Join us from a studio over at Aspen Public Radio is Garrett Graf.
3:13.0	He's in Colorado at the Aspen Security Conference, which is kind of like the Sundance Film Festival of our time.
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