‘The Phoenician Scheme’ Is Here, With Wes Anderson!

The Big Picture

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Tv & Film

4.3 • 5.2K Ratings

🗓️ 6 June 2025

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Sean and Amanda take a deep dive into one of their favorite directors' newest films: Wes Anderson’s ‘The Phoenician Scheme.’ They discuss the new themes Anderson tackles that he typically avoids, celebrate the phenomenal performances from Michael Cera and Mia Threapleton, and discuss how a second viewing can unlock a better understanding of the movie’s ideas (1:36). Then, for the first time in Big Picture history, Wes Anderson joins the show to discuss the movie, the connective tissue across his filmography, and how he experiments in new projects (50:37). Hosts: Sean Fennessey and Amanda Dobbins Guest: Wes Anderson Producer: Jack Sanders Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Welcome to the brand new Zach Lowe Show.
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0:24.9	So make sure you follow and subscribe to the brand new Zach Lowe show on Spotify or wherever you watch or listen to your podcast.
0:33.2	Let's go!
0:46.8	I'm Sean Fennacy. I'm Amanda Dobbins.
0:47.6	And this is the big picture, a conversation show about Wes Anderson.
0:51.4	On this episode, we will dive deep into the Phoenician scheme.
0:54.7	The latest film from Anderson, a portrait of an aging tycoon, his daughter, and the
0:58.9	financial plot binding them together later in this episode for the first time in big picture
1:04.7	history, Wes Anderson joins me to talk about his work, this new movie, how having a family influenced his work.
1:12.6	I'm very excited. I hope people will listen to our conversation. Wes is, of course, an icon to the
1:18.0	big picture, so it was pretty cool. What, can you give me a preview of the fit?
1:22.7	Simply a white button-down shirt, buttoned all the way to the top, a long collar.
1:28.4	Okay.
1:28.8	And immaculately quaffed hair.
1:30.8	Beautiful.
1:31.2	That was pretty much it.
1:31.9	Okay.
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