‘Ballerina,’ ‘Bring Her Back,’ and ‘Dogma’ Reborn, with Kevin Smith!!!

The Big Picture

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Tv & Film

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🗓️ 10 June 2025

⏱️ 113 minutes

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Sean and Amanda are joined by Chris Ryan to discuss their disappointment with the newest installment in the John Wick franchise, ‘From the World of John Wick: Ballerina’ (2:08). Next, they cover the second horror feature film from the Philippou brothers with the deeply upsetting ‘Bring Her Back’ and explain why it was an interesting follow-up to their first feature, ‘Talk to Me’ (25:45). Then, they revisit Kevin Smith’s 1999 classic, ‘Dogma,’ and share everything they loved about it when they first watched it, and all of the things that have aged so well since then (37:00). Finally, Sean is joined by Kevin Smith for the first time to discuss the re-release of ‘Dogma.’ They discuss why it has been so difficult to access the rights to the movie, what made Smith’s return to the Cannes Film Festival so special, and share a myriad of incredible stories across his entire filmmaking career (51:19). Hosts: Sean Fennessey and Amanda Dobbins Guests: Kevin Smith and Chris Ryan Producer: Jack Sanders Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hello, Baypick Psychos. You already know we're coming to Chicago this summer, and we're so excited for our live show on July 21st, but there's more.
0:09.0	We're heading to the music box theater to watch number 14 on our 25 for 25 list on the big screen with you.
0:17.0	We're keeping the movie a secret, but we promise you won't be disappointed, and we'll have a conversation right after to talk through what we all just watched.
0:25.5	Tickets go on sale this Friday, June 13th at 10 a.m. Central Time. More information will be available soon at the ringer.com slash events.
0:34.7	Again, we're going to be screening and talking about number 14 on our 25 for 25 list live at the Music Box Theater in Chicago on Sunday, July 20th, and you can't join us.
0:46.8	Tickets go on sale this Friday, June 13th at 10 a.m. Central Time with details to come on the ringer.com slash events.
0:52.2	We hope you'll join us.
1:04.7	Music with details to come on the ringer.com slash events. We hope you'll join us. I'm Sean Fennessey.
1:06.0	I'm Amanda Dobbins.
1:07.0	And this is the Big Picture
1:07.9	A Conversation Show about ballerinas
1:09.9	and not so silent bobs.
1:11.8	Later in this episode, a big name comes off the old bucket list.
1:15.7	Kevin Smith joins me for one hour, or perhaps to put a finer point on it.
1:20.7	Kevin Smith, the writer, director of such beloved classics as clerks chasing Amy and Dogma,
1:25.5	delivered an hour-long mega story on this show about the birth,
1:29.5	disappearance, and re-emergence
1:31.0	of his fascinating, hilarious,
1:32.7	Catholicism, satire, comedy, action, epic.
1:35.4	If you love Smith the filmmaker and Smith
1:37.1	the storyteller, you will definitely want to
1:39.0	stick around for that conversation. Amanda, Chris, and I
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