The Philosophy of Fatness with Kate Manne

Factually! with Adam Conover

Headgum

Comedy

4.4 • 2.2K Ratings

🗓️ 21 May 2025

⏱️ 93 minutes

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Science increasingly shows that we have far less control over our weight and body shape than society wants us to believe. Yet people labeled as “overweight” are often ridiculed, dismissed, and denied basic respect. While some claim fatphobia is hardwired into human nature, its roots are more recent—and more surprising—than you might expect. This week, Adam speaks with Cornell philosopher Kate Manne, author of Unshrinking: How to Face Fatphobia, about the origins and consequences of anti-fat bias—and what it will take to dismantle it. Find Kate's book at factuallypod.com/books

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0:00.0	This is a headgum podcast.
0:05.0	I don't know the truth.
0:08.3	I don't know the way.
0:10.9	I don't know what to think.
0:13.6	I don't know what to say.
0:16.6	Yeah, but that's all right.
0:19.4	That's okay.
0:22.0	I don't know anything.
0:27.6	Hey there, welcome to factually.
0:29.1	I'm Adam Conover.
0:29.8	Thank you so much for joining me on the show again.
0:31.6	You know, believe it or not, in the last century, America has expanded its circle of acceptance
0:36.8	to bring in more and more people.
0:39.4	And this has happened over and over again. We had the feminist movement, which gave
0:42.8	women the right to vote and eventually greater control over their bodies and their lives.
0:47.1	We had the civil rights movement, which ended the racist Jim Crow system and pushed America
0:52.4	to become something like a full-fledged democracy
0:55.5	for the very first time in its history. We've also had the LGBT rights movement and the
1:00.5	disability rights movements, both of which have had huge impacts on our society in a relatively
1:06.2	short period of time. Americans love a civil rights movement, okay? We love living through it and we love
1:12.5	accepting people. But that does not mean that we have conquered bias in this country. Clearly,
1:18.6	I mean, just read the news or look at society around you because we still exhibit bias
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