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Witness History

The Peter Principle

Witness History

BBC

Personal Journals, Society & Culture, History

4.51.6K Ratings

🗓️ 17 September 2021

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

In 1969 a satirical book, The Peter Principle, suggested that promotion led to incompetence. Written by a Canadian Professor of Education, Dr Laurence J. Peter and playwright Raymond Hull, the book was a parody of management theory but it's core message struck a chord with many. It became an instant classic, selling millions of copies around the world. We present a rare archive recording of Dr Peter, explaining his theory that “In a hierarchy every employee tends to rise to his level of incompetence". Photo: Dr Laurence J. Peter on the BBC in 1974 (BBC)

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0:29.2

Hello and welcome to the Witness History Podcast from the BBC World Service

0:37.2

with me Alex Last and today we go back to 1969 and the publication of The Peter Principal, a best-selling satirical book

0:46.1

about incompetence in the workplace whose core message appealed to millions around the world and

0:52.0

became part of popular culture.

0:54.3

When I was a boy I used to believe my parents and believe my teachers and

1:01.0

have that you should have respect for your elders and betters and that the men upstairs

1:05.2

knew what they were doing.

1:07.4

And I was taught that the more I would know, the further I would go.

1:10.9

So I stayed in school, I got a degree, eventually got teaching certificate, I went out to teach.

1:17.0

And the first school I taught in, the principal was primarily concerned that the children did not step on the rose beds and education seemed to be the furthest thing from his mind.

1:27.0

I saw teachers and administrators that seemed incompetent and I started to question some of these ideas I had.

1:35.0

In the early 1960s, the Canadian teacher, academic and psychologist, Dr. Lawrence J. Peter

1:40.4

was fascinated by a funny, if rather weighty question. Why he pondered were so many people

1:46.8

clearly incompetent at their jobs. As evidence he later told the BBC was not exactly

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