The Peter Mandelson Interview
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BBC
4.3 • 6.6K Ratings
🗓️ 11 January 2026
⏱️ 31 minutes
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Summary
Since Peter Mandelson's sacking as US ambassador over his links to the convicted paedophile Jeffrey Epstein, he's remained silent, until now.
In this extended version of this first and exclusive interview, Laura's questions him over Trump, Epstein, and what Number 10 really knew.
Laura, Paddy, and Henry will be in your feed with analysis later as normal.
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts. |
| 0:06.0 | Peter Mandelson was rarely far from power. |
| 0:08.8 | Peter Mandelson was rarely far from scandal. |
| 0:11.7 | But he's not said anything in front of a microphone since his sacking. |
| 0:16.1 | At the time, newscasters, you might remember, |
| 0:18.3 | Downing Street said he was economical with the truth, |
| 0:20.7 | that he hadn't given the full version of events and the extent of his friendship with |
| 0:24.5 | Geoffrey Epstein. Does he agree? I ask him about that and all the other controversies as |
| 0:30.4 | well as Trump's new world order. And here is my long conversation with Peter Mandelson, including |
| 0:36.1 | what he might do next. Newscast. Newscast from the BBC. Fat boy sliver me in the classroom doing our violin lessons. I was the tattletail in the class. Can I have an apology, please? I trust almost nobody. That daddy has to sometimes do strong language. Next time in Moscow. I feel delulu with no salulu. Take me down to Downey Street. |
| 0:55.4 | Let's go have a tour. |
| 0:57.2 | Blimey. |
| 0:59.3 | Lord Bandolson, thank you for speaking to us today. |
| 1:02.4 | You left your position in Washington for reasons we'll come to in a few minutes. |
| 1:06.5 | But you have a unique perspective from having been Britain's ambassador and dealing with Donald Trump in the White House. |
| 1:12.4 | How should governments, including the UK, react to this incredibly turbulent beginning to 2026, his strikes on Venezuela and his threat to grab a NATO ally in Greenland? |
| 1:23.9 | I know people will sometimes be taken aback by his language and his approach to things. |
| 1:33.5 | And I had a ringside seat in a sense and so I saw how the truth social posts would come |
| 1:41.3 | out and how some people used language and took positions that were to our |
| 1:47.0 | mind in Europe, quite undiplomatic. But from his point of view, you need to understand |
| 1:54.0 | that he feels that we live in a world that's full of conflicts, of hard power, of growing rivalry, and particularly between |
| 2:04.6 | the United States and China, and that sometimes nettles have to be grasped, and that that |
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