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The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

The Perónian Swamp

The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

The Dispatch

Politics, News

4.66.3K Ratings

🗓️ 4 January 2025

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Summary

After attending to the various and sundry, Jonah Goldberg explains why you should read George Orwell's Politics and the English Language, why the conflation between "the swamp" and "the deep state" irritates him so much, and the issue with saying "Trump is Hitler." Show Notes: —Jonah's debate with Charles Kesler —Liberal Fascism —Kevin Williamson on the Deep State and Vikings —Kevin Williamson on Jimmy Carter The Remnant is a production of The Dispatch, a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a non-partisan, conservative perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including Jonah’s G-File newsletter, weekly livestreams, and other members-only content—click here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Oh!

0:48.1

Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, can I please have your attention.

1:03.6

Can you digger? Greetings, your listeners. This is Jonah Goldberg, host to the Remnant podcast, brought to you about Dispatch and Dispatch Media.

1:13.1

Greetings from wintry, ice station zebrish, zebra-ish, zebra-ish, zebra-ish, zebra-ish,

1:16.9

ice station zebra-ish, yeah, sorry.

1:18.7

Words are sounding very funny to me this morning.

1:24.2

It's very early in the morning because I'm an hour behind out here on Central Time.

1:29.6

We drove out here by my lovely, maybe it's because she's an Alaskan wife, had the idea of coming out here in wintertime because we liked it so much in the

1:37.1

summer and the idea of just sort of being hunkered down in a wintry wonderland sounded very

1:43.6

appealing.

1:49.7

The thing is there's not a lot of snow here, which is a little weird because one of the big things they advertise is snowmobiling.

1:54.4

That's what people in the lower 48 call those machines that you ride on snow.

2:00.0

In Alaska, they call them snow machines,

2:02.5

which in the lower 48 is the word we use for machines that make snow.

2:08.3

And it all gets very, very confusing.

2:10.6

But when you think about it, it makes some sense that who needs a machine that makes snow in Alaska.

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