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The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

The Dispatch

Politics, News

4.6 • 6.3K Ratings

🗓️ 8 January 2025

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Brookings Institution senior fellow and best-selling author Jonathan Rauch has returned to The Remnant once more to subject his latest book to Jonah Goldberg’s barrage of inquiry. The book in question, Cross Purposes: Christianity’s Broken Bargain with Democracy, seeks to remind Americans that liberalism cannot function without strong Christian institutions and argues that living the Christian doctrine could help fix our democracy. Jonah and Jonathan discuss new ways to protect American pluralism, spiritual formation in the civic realm, and the admirable strategies of the Church of Latter-day Saints. Show Notes: —Buy Cross Purposes here —G-File: Slog and Sacrifice The Remnant is a production of The Dispatch, a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a non-partisan, conservative perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including Jonah’s G-File newsletter, weekly livestreams, and other members-only content—click here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:28.7	On the beach.
0:33.7	Oh! Ladies and gentlemen, can I please have your attention.
0:49.1	Can you digger?
0:58.5	Greetings, dear listeners. This is Jonah Goldberg, host of the Remnant podcast, brought to you by the Dispatch and Dispatch
1:03.2	Media.
1:05.3	In what may be a record, not sure, now Chris St-Walt probably still has the record, but it's close.
1:13.2	We have a guest returning for the third time in a very short period of time. Jonathan Roush
1:20.2	was last on here where he commandeered the microphone to interview me about my refusal to go MAGA.
1:27.2	And he is a writer for the Atlantic.
1:30.0	He's a senior fellow at the Brookings Institute, and he's got a wonderful new book, which
1:35.2	will be of considerable interest to many of our listeners called Cross Purposes.
1:41.1	Christianity's Broken Bargain with Democracy.
1:46.0	Jonathan Rauch, welcome back to The Remnant. Always nice to be here, Jonah.
1:48.0	First rule on this podcast is when you have a author with a new book,
1:52.0	the first question is, what's your book about?
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