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28-2-23

This is Deep State Radio. Coming to you direct from our super secret studio

in the third sub-basement of the Ministry of Snark in Washington, D.C.

and from other undisclosed locations across America and around the world.

Hello and welcome to the latest edition of our special series of podcasts focused on books

you should read. The latest book is The Persuaders at the Frontlines of the Fight

for Hearts, Mines, and Democracy by Anand Girdadas. He is probably known to you as a commentator

on TV, you possibly have read him in the Times or the New Yorker, the Atlantic, or time.

Welcome, Anand. Thank you so much for having me.

This is a terrific book on a really important subject, and also one that I particularly like

the way that you went about doing it. You look at people who are tackling what might be described

as one of the biggest problems in a divided nation, which is how do you change minds?

And you provide multiple perspectives of people doing this. Was the current

severity of the political and cultural divides in the US, the thing that led you here?

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