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The People Suing ICE

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4.56K Ratings

🗓️ 10 October 2025

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Though ICE, the Department of Homeland Security, and the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services denied their Freedom of Information Act requests, these journalists aren’t giving up without a fight—not until they get their hands on a document that outlines how much information Medicaid is sharing with ICE.

Guest: Joseph Cox, cofounder of 404 Media. 

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Podcast production by Evan Campbell, and Patrick Fort.



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This might be an unfair question, but if you had to do some back of the envelope math,

1:23.9

how many FOIA requests do you think you have filed in your lifetime?

1:27.1

Wow, I've never thought about that.

1:29.5

That is a great question. Wow. I've never thought about that. That is a great question.

1:38.9

That's Joseph Cox, one of the founders of 404 Media. Safe to say, he files a lot of Freedom of Information Act requests with the government. I definitely file at least five a week.

1:46.0

So, you know, it's maybe not every day, but on average it's going to be about that spread

1:51.0

across.

1:52.0

I've been a journalist for 10 years, probably doing that for five years, so somebody else can do the

1:56.0

math who's listening.

1:57.0

But it's a lot of FOIA requests and a lot of experience doing this over the

2:01.5

years, yeah, with varying levels of success, I would say.

2:07.5

The Freedom of Information Act, FOIA, was first introduced in the shadow of the Cold War

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