The Patriotic Punk

Radio Atlantic

The Atlantic

Politics, News, Society & Culture

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🗓️ 3 July 2025

⏱️ 28 minutes

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The Atlantic’s editor in chief Jeffrey Goldberg talks to Ken Casey, frontman for the Celtic punk band Dropkick Murphys, about the time he called out a fan in the audience who was wearing a MAGA shirt. The band has been around for three decades and has its working-class roots in Quincy, Massachusetts. At concerts, the band often dedicates its song “First Class Loser” to Donald Trump, and it sells T-shirts that say “Fighting Nazis since 1996.” Goldberg speaks with Casey about watching his fans and people he loves fall in love with Trump, and about how Democrats might be able to win them back. Get more from your favorite Atlantic voices when you subscribe. You’ll enjoy unlimited access to Pulitzer-winning journalism, from clear-eyed analysis and insight on breaking news to fascinating explorations of our world. Atlantic subscribers also get access to exclusive subscriber audio in Apple Podcasts. Subscribe today at theAtlantic.com/listener. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:49.9	I'm Hunter Rosen. This is Radio Atlantic. And the Atlantic's editor-in-chief, Jeffrey Goldberg, is really into Celtic punk music. Who knew? He listens to one band in particular when he's getting ready for work.
1:05.1	I listen to them in the morning when I'm trying to wake up. You know, the boys are back and, you know, smash shit up or whatever
1:11.1	are good songs to listen to in the morning when you're trying to, like, get motivated.
1:16.0	Those songs are by Dropkick Murphys, who, by the way, have an album out this week.
1:20.8	Their front man is Ken Casey. And Jeff saw a clip one day of Casey doing something interesting
1:26.4	at one of his shows.
1:32.0	Something Jeff thought was unusual, risky, maybe even brave.
1:46.0	Wait, you just called up Ken Casey one day, why were you interested in him?
1:51.8	If you actually want to know the real reason why, do you want to know the real reason why?
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