The Patriarchy Playbook: How America’s Gendered Hierarchy Endures with Anna Malika Tubbs - ICYMI

Getting Better with Jonathan Van Ness

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Self-improvement, Society & Culture, Comedy, Education

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🗓️ 25 May 2026

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Best selling author Anna Malaika Tubbs stops by to tell us all about her book, Erased: What American Patriarchy Has Hidden from Us and helps us hone in on real time examples of our Patriarchy is being weaponized today. Anna unpacks how the United States has constructed a unique - and often invisible - gendered hierarchy, one that is inextricably linked to whiteness and a deeply flawed binary system. From the founding fathers to the current Supreme Court, from the erasure of women in the Constitution to the ongoing fight for the Equal Rights Amendment, Dr. Tubbs reveals the mechanisms that have kept women’s contributions hidden and their voices suppressed. Anna Malaika Tubbs is a scholar, advocate, and bestselling author (The Three Mothers: How the Mothers of Martin Luther King, Jr., Malcolm X, and James Baldwin Shaped a Nation) whose work brings a fresh, urgent perspective on American history and its gendered systems. With a Ph.D. in Sociology and a Masters in Multidisciplinary Gender Studies from the University of Cambridge and a Bachelors in Medical Anthropology from Stanford University, Anna translates her academic knowledge into clear and engaging stories. Her articles have been published by TIME Magazine, New York Magazine, CNN, Motherly, The Huffington Post, For Harriet, The Guardian, Darling Magazine, and Blavity. Anna’s storytelling also takes form in her talks, including her TED Talk that has been viewed 2 million times, as well as the scripted and unscripted screen projects she has in development. She lives in Los Angeles with her husband, former Mayor of Stockton, CA Michael Tubbs and their three young children. Follow Anna Malaika Tubbs Follow us on Instagram @gettingbetterwithjvn Jonathan on Instagram @jvn and executive producer Chris @amomentlikechris New video episodes Getting Better on YouTube every Wednesday. Executive Producer, Chris McClure Producer, Editor & Engineer is Nathanael McClure Production support from: Chad Hall Our theme music is also composed by Nathanael McClure.Curious about bringing your brand to life on the show? Email podcastadsales@sonymusic.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hey Better Babes, it's Jonathan Van Ness and welcome to the Monday Edit.
0:05.2	This week like every week, I'm joined by our senior producer, Chris.
0:07.7	Say hi, Chris.
0:08.5	Hi, hi.
0:09.1	We're here breaking down the news, pop culture, TikTok drama, beauty wrecks and expanding on the topics we're covering over on getting better.
0:15.3	That show drops every Wednesday here on the podcast feed and on YouTube in its full glory.
0:20.1	I hope that you not only survived your
0:22.5	weekend, but thrived in your weekend, got your rest relaxation. I hope you got your party on.
0:27.7	I hope you're feeling gorgeous. We got to enjoy so we can defeat this GD patriarchy,
0:32.8	which reminds me, that's really the theme for this episode right here. We are talking all about the patriarchy
0:38.6	today and what it's doing to wreak havoc on our lives with author Anna Malika Tubbs, who just
0:45.9	dropped her new New York Times bestselling book erased, what American patriarchy has hidden
0:52.1	from us. I'm obsessed with her, you guys. If you're a long time listener of the pod, you will remember that we had her on in like circa 2021. I'm so excited for me to catch up with her and for you guys to get to hear what she's been up to. We're getting into our interview with author, Annamaleika Tubbs. Welcome back to the pod. How are you? I'm so good. I'm so happy that we both have New York Times bestselling books this week. Queen, we literally have like so many between us. We're basically like the kind of Mariah and Whitney of like books or something. That's what people say. I think a lot of people have, they said that on our wiki, actually. It's been focused on it that I did a hard right.
1:32.8	But wait, I'm so glad they're here. So just to catch everybody up, if you don't know,
1:36.8	Anamlyka Tubbs is a dear friend. We're huge fans. She's a two-time New York Times
1:41.6	Best Selling author. But her first book, which we had her on the pod to
1:45.1	learn about in February of 2021, which that just means that our friendship is, I measure things in
1:51.4	Olympic cycles. Our friendship is older than an Olympic cycle now. Do you know? Yeah. Let's just
1:57.2	catch the people up on what happened. So your first book, The Three Mothers, How the Mothers of Martin Luther King, Jr., Malcolm X, and James Baldwin shaped a nation, which we just talked about on a recent episode of Getting Better with Julie Murphy, in addition to your new book erased what American patriarchy has sent from us, which just dropped near the end of May.
2:15.6	For those of our listeners that are new to your work, how would you describe the mission
2:20.4	behind your new book?
2:21.7	Erased is the go-to book for understanding American patriarchy, how it was built, how it's
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