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The Peter McCormack Show

The Path of Freedom and Sovereignty with Natalie Smolenski - WBD566

The Peter McCormack Show

Peter McCormack

Politics, Society, Markets, News, Society & Culture, Technology, Inflation, Finance, Economics, Government, Power, Bitcoin, Money

4.72.8K Ratings

🗓️ 12 October 2022

⏱️ 118 minutes

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Summary

Natalie Smolenski is an Executive Director of the Texas Bitcoin Foundation and a Fellow at the Bitcoin Policy Institute. In this interview, we discuss the elimination of cash, the importance of Bitcoin to a free society, and the clear and present danger posed by CBDCs.

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Like the fable of a frog being not perceiving danger when slowly boiled, citizens in mature democracies have been surrendering to the steady erosion of their privacy and rights. The issue is that society now stands unknowingly at the edge of a precipice. Governments and compliant businesses are working on a technology that they will sell as providing utility but could herald the end of democracy: CBDCs.

Whilst Bitcoiners are aware of the dangers, it seems as though the rest of society, including decision-makers, are ignorant. Faster, less costly, more convenient payment systems - what's the problem many will ask. The risks of providing unfettered access to arguably the most critical component of our private data do not resonate with those who have already traded their privacy with social media companies.

But, there is obviously a massive difference between surveillance capitalism and unprecendented government oversight of individuals' financial data. And further, as Natalie Smolenski alludes to in the whitepaper she has written with Dan Held, "Why the U.S. Should Reject Central Bank Digital Currencies", adopting CBDCs could be a one-way valve: reversing political will and technology is formidably hard. Once cash has gone, it won't be coming back.

The battle is not only for democracy, it is for prosperity. The American experiment has shown that bottom up innovation can thrive in a free society. It is hard to imagine the industrial revolution occurring if feudalism was still the dominant form of societal organisation. It was the enlightenment, the development of ideas of freedom, tolerance, fraternity and rights that enabled humans to flourish.

This is perhaps Bitcoiners' most important fight. Education, advocacy and conviction are our weapons. Maintaining our personal sovereignty is the prize.


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0:00.0

The only way that tyranny is prevented is a strong civil society that the state actually becomes concerned about.

0:15.0

Hello there from Amsterdam, how are you all?

0:18.0

You having a good week?

0:19.0

Welcome to the What Bitcoin did podcast, which is brought to you by Gemini.

0:22.0

The only place I'm using for buying

0:23.6

Bitcoin. I'm your host Peter McCormack and today I've got an interview with

0:27.1

Natalie Smolenski from the Texas Bitcoin Foundation. Now Natalie wrote this

0:31.4

article discussing CBBCs. Danny got hold of it sent it to me

0:35.2

he said look we need to make a show with Natalie so while we're over in Austin we

0:38.8

invite her over to make a podcast and discuss the imminent threat that CBDCs present.

0:44.1

But to be honest, the first hour or so, we didn't even get into that.

0:46.8

We spent a lot of time discussing her history in study and anthropology and how that relates to

0:51.6

Bitcoin, how she sees governance, how she sees the

0:53.8

community. So it is a fascinating interview, absolutely love this. So I hope you

0:57.4

enjoy it. I am in Amsterdam. I'm here for the Bitcoin conference, excited

1:01.1

hang out with a bunch of Bitcoin is again. So that's going to be pretty cool.

1:04.0

Apart from that, I hope you're having a great week. Hope you enjoy the interview.

1:06.5

If you've got any questions about it, you can hit me up. My email address says hello at what

1:09.7

Bitcoin did.com.

1:11.0

All right, good morning. did. one of the most important interviews I make not only in the sprint but potentially this year.

1:26.2

If we talk about what I think we're going to talk about and these bloody flies are getting away,

1:31.0

I think this is going to be really important interview to do and the reason let me tell you the reason why

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