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The Peter McCormack Show

Bitcoin, The Critical Money Layer with Nik Bhatia - WBD567

The Peter McCormack Show

Peter McCormack

Politics, Society, Markets, News, Society & Culture, Technology, Inflation, Finance, Economics, Government, Power, Bitcoin, Money

4.72.8K Ratings

🗓️ 14 October 2022

⏱️ 118 minutes

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Summary

Nik Bhatia is Author of Layered Money and founder of TheBitcoinLayer.com. In this interview, we discuss Jeff Snider's Eurodollar ideas: how all money is credit money; why Bitcoin will be a check, but will not replace, fractional reserve banking; and how Bitcoin will complement the dollar as a generational store of value.

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Three months ago we interviewed Jeff Snider who discussed the Eurodollar system, how Central Banks aren't in control of the levers of money, and why we could be entering a deflationary depression. The show generated a huge amount of interest, particularly because despite the Eurodollar system being opaque and poorly understood, it is arguably a central cog in the global economy.

Nik Bhatia, amongst other esteemed commentators, was compelled to respond to Jeff's show. This is because Jeff's ideas and the way he presents them are enlightening and engaging. There is broad agreement regarding the unacknowledged criticality of this part of the global economic system, and the resultant challenge it presents for being able to define money.

There is also consensus that inflation won't be the runaway phenomenon some are warning of, because the impact of QE was offset by tightening in the Eurodollar market. As such, deflationary pressures could soon become apparent meaning banks should be taking more risk to stimulate growth. It is fair to state Nic is an admirer of Jeff: Nic attributes Jeff's seminal work to helping him develop Layered Money.

However, Nic does also have some important divergent opinions from Jeff. Nik believes that the banking system isn't out of control. Whilst it doesn't necessarily have the power it seeks to portray it does, neither is it an impotent bystander. The recent moves to quell inflation have only just begun in earnest. Could the Fed show that it has teeth in this regard?

What is most illuminating however is their convergent ideas around Bitcoin. Whilst presented in different ways, they both see Bitcoin's role as an important store of value. They also agree that fiat's elasticity will continue to be a desired utility. What Nik leads on in this regard is that Bitcoin can act as a vital check on fiat and Central Banks: it makes money pluralist.


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0:00.0

All of that monetary profligacy over the last 10 years put the Fed's reputation on watch.

0:06.9

Everybody and their mother knows about the Fed and its willingness to just do QE infinity.

0:15.0

And so in a post-pandemic world where they got caught,

0:19.4

basically, without a plan,

0:21.8

now they have to preserve their reputation.

0:24.0

Hello there from Amsterdam, how you all doing?

0:27.0

I'm about to just head off to the airport.

0:29.0

I'm heading back to the UK, I've been away for a couple of weeks,

0:31.0

which has been a bit difficult because I hate

0:32.8

been away from my football team anyway welcome to the what bit wind did

0:36.3

podcast which is brought to you by Gemini the only place I'm using for buying

0:39.7

Bitcoin I'm your host Peter McCormack and I've got one of my favorite people back on the show. I've got Nick Bartier.

0:45.0

Now you know Nick, Nick wrote a whole bunch of articles a few years ago, but also recently wrote a book called Laid Money and he listened to my show with Jeff Snide and he said

0:53.7

look Pete I love Jeff love what he stands for but I want to come and talk about this

0:57.2

I've got some things I want to talk to you about so he came in he came to see us in

1:00.8

Miami he and he dropped some absolute bomb.

1:03.0

This is an amazing show Nick absolutely crushes it.

1:05.5

You definitely don't want to miss this.

1:07.6

Also I just want to say a big shout out to the people at Bitcoin magazine.

1:10.7

Another great conference.

1:11.6

They absolutely crushed it here in Europe.

1:13.2

It's great to see the conference come over to my continent.

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