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Welcome to the Double X Gap Fest for Thursday, December 14th, the Pass the Phone to Ivanka edition.

I'm Hannah Rosen, a host of NPR's Invisibilia.

In the New York studios, we have June Thomas, editor of Outwards, Slate's LGBTQ blog. Hi, June. Hey, Hannah. And Noreen Malone of New York magazine. Hi, Noreen. Just a reminder before we get going, we have our call-in show for the holidays. If something in your life is happening and you're not sure if it's sexist, if it's something you're doing or someone you know is doing, we will figure that out for you. Call in 929-2-66-8-1-95. That's 9-29-2-6-6-8-1-9-5,

and we are recording the show early. So call right away if you hear this number, and we will play your voice on air and then answer the question. Okay, our topics for this week. First, Trump's cabinet and what it means for women. Second, self-care, how the term has evolved over the years. And third, mom is apparently now a compliment.

Okay, I don't really believe it.

But we'll get to that.

And then our Slate Plus segment, June, you want to tell us about it?

We will be deciding whether lingerie is sexist.

Heavy hitting issues today.

Yes, heavy hitting issues and we're all dressed in lingerie for that segment.

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that slate does. All right. Our first topic, Trump's cabinet. I guess in my head, this one is a report

card and it has categories, you know, like first is just the basic optics. You count the number of

women. That one's going to be easy. And then there's the bro culture, you know, some of the broie things many of them have done. And then we have to get to the actual policies that they might do. You know, there's just lots of ways. Oh, the Ivanka factor, right? That's like the extra credit.

And spoiler alert, none of this is going to make anybody happy, except, I guess, misogynist Republicans.

Yeah, he's going to get an F. He's going to get an F. I'm speaking of misogynist. I have to say, I've been getting like a lot. The misogynist uprising in my sort of like Twitter through my email, it's really, it's really been noticeable. Oh, really? Yeah, it's mostly from the end of men, but it's like it was

quiet for a long time, and now it's just like, whoosh. Wow. Some people have just found

their megaphone again, like, welcome back, assholes. Wow. That's so interesting. Yeah, it's really,

it's interesting. It's like they are, you know, they're totally empowered to get back at me for a book I wrote five years ago. It's really important. What do they say? We're still here? No, it's so bad. Like, I just forward you one of them. We're still here as a English, B, grammatical, and three, doesn't have, you know, the words like... Yeah, exactly.

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