I don't think, though, that you have to be a racist

of overdone or a term, but I think particularly now,

you have to be willing to accept that whatever benefit

you're getting from Donald Trump being president

is greater than the fact that we have a racist as president.

And I think that's very disturbing.

Hello, and welcome to Wise This Happening

with me, your host Chris Hayes.

We've got another week here in the quarantine closet.

Get another week here in America going through a once

in a century catastrophe.

I wish there were better news to bring you,

but you don't need to bring you the news in the podcast.

But today, well, today we're focusing

on an interesting breed of human, a relatively rare specimen.

In some ways, the most overrepresented voice in America,

which is the voice of the never-Trump Republican,

there are probably, in the country,

there's numerically not a ton of them,

but they have a lot of influence in the discourse,

partly because a huge percentage

of fairly prominent members of the Republican establishment,

...