All these little lies serve a purpose,

like telling people that the caravan has a threat,

telling them that they had the biggest inauguration crowd ever.

Just all these constant little lies are conditioning.

They're meant to sort of condition their followers

to just go along with whatever they say.

And once you've got that,

then it's like off to the autocratic races.

Hello and welcome to Wise's Happening with me, your host Chris Hayes.

There is an emerging polarization in America around the issue of masks.

I'm sure you've seen this.

Now, the good news is that there's actually pretty decent consensus on it.

Some polls have it as high as 75% of people are wearing masks.

And the reason that's good is because based on the evidence we have,

which is accrued over time and now seems quite rock solid,

particularly the experience of other countries, masks are probably the lowest

cost way of significantly reducing transmission of the coronavirus.

There's a lot of other things we can do, you know,

expensive social distancing and working from home and spacing people out

and closing down the economy,

but on a kind of like cost benefit analysis,

like just if you wear a mask outside and if everybody wears a mask

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