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guest, Dr. Tim Gersmer.

He is an expert in quite a variety of topics, but today we're going to shift gears and talk about something that's quite important, but has not received as much airplay as what it likely deserves and that is

obesogenic substances that we find in our modern environment. Doc how are you doing?

Hey Rob it's awesome man I'm I've listened to your podcast for a long time. We connected a lot of years ago and so I've been watching your ride up. I'm really glad the messages that you've been getting out to people and I'm excited because you know when I contacted

you about this this is just something I find doesn't get a lot of airplay it's a little

rough you know what we find is we start talking about this stuff kind of halfway through people are like you know trying to hide under their desk and stuff just feeling a little overwhelmed by

By this topic, but I you know we want to bring it up

Absolutely you before we jump in on that, Doc, you have a really interesting background. You, you've lectured and educated people on a wide variety of topics ranging from methylation to the importance of the gut

microbiota before the gut microbiota was a nearly household term, at least household term in certain

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