I'm going to go and Howdy folks,

folks. Rob Wolf here, another edition of the Paler Solution Podcast, six listeners can't be wrong.

Hope you all are doing well. I'm very excited for our guest today.

She is a very dear friend.

It's someone that I've worked with for a long time.

Amy Cubles worked with her.

She has an amazing story. Ursula Grobler, a world-caliber

rowing machine. A machine of rowing. Ursula, how are you doing?

I'm doing great, Robin. I will be proud to say I was one of your first six listeners

Nice. Thank you. I don't know what what that says about your taste in podcast, but clearly nothing good.

Hey Ursula give folks your background.

You have a fascinating background.

You've been on you know the international scene of rowing for quite a number of years now.

Tell folks about your background.

Well Rob I grew up in South Africa so if you can't tell by the accent already that something's

a mess. Yeah so from South Africa and then I moved to the states in 2002 to

Seattle in particular your old home and to come as an appear after I finished studying information

design at the University of Pretoria and after that just got rolling

into a job and just being a normal person working 9 to 5.

But then a weird change of events happened.

My company downsized and they asked me to let me go, which was really

hard as a young aspiring career person.

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