I'm going to go and Howdy folks, Rob Wolf here with a very special edition of the Paler Solution

podcast. Today we have author of the Four Hour work week, the four hour body, the four hour chef,

Charlie Winklestein, or wait, no, no, no, that's Tim Ferris, Tim, how are you doing?

I'm doing great man. It's nice to jump on the horn with you again.

Great to connect with you.

It's been a little while.

What's new?

What do you have cooking?

Well, there are few things that I have cooking.

And since we last spoke, I'd actually had the opportunity,

which was tremendously exciting for me

to do a little bit of effectively interning

or volunteering at the Sandler Neuroscience Lab at UCSF, which is home to Adam

Gazali and his team who do and continue to do a lot of work in TDCS, so trans cranial direct current stimulation.

They're also looking at alternate forms, but they ended up on the cover of I think it was Nature magazine which is

is something like winning the best actor best supporting actor best director

simultaneously in the Oscars right within the science world that is as

big as it gets and I was both a subject where I was having these sort of anode and cathode put on my scalp to see how they affected

performance in video games, specifically racing video game and multitasking game.

And I also had the chance to be one of the experimenters so

going through the methodology the experimental design and hooking subjects

up and capturing data so it was really interesting for me for the first time to kind of step behind the curtain

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