I'm going to go and Howdy folks, Rob Wolf here. Six listeners can't be wrong. This is the

payload solution podcast and I am incredibly excited to have our guest today.

She is a primitive skills expert and alumni

of the wildly successful and popular

Naked and Afraid show, Laura, Laura, how are you doing?

I'm doing great Rob, thanks for having me on.

I'm really excited.

I am so excited for this and you know, just getting the podcast going is kind of, it's maybe allegorical for the fact that we should not rely on technology because it was a pain in the ass.

Getting this thing going.

Throw me out in the backcountry anywhere I'm good.

You try to get me to use technology and it's just a big fail.

Don't go there.

Don't go there. It's just sorrow and pain and suffering and all that stuff. So hey, let me do our podcast sponsors really quick,

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