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Welcome to The Untold Story, everybody. This is Martha McCallum. Glad to have you with us. And I'm really excited to be joined today for The Untold Story by Gareth Russell, who joins

us to preview his new book, which is called The Palace by

Gareth Russell. And it's great to have you with us. Welcome.

Oh, thank you so much for having me. So the subtitle of this book is from the Tudors

to the Windsor's 500 years of British history at Hampton Court. And Hampton Court, and for all of you,

you all probably know that I have covered

many royal events over the last 20 years, spent a lot of time in London and in the United Kingdom, and I have spent time at

this palace. If you haven't been there, it's an extraordinary place, Gareth, one of my favorite places in this palace is the kitchen.

My too. It's a is a stunning look at a kitchen from the Elizabethan period and prior to that right right and it just shows you how what an enormous

undertaking it was to feed this palace and to have all of these rooms with all

of these scullery bates and chefs and cooks running all over the place but what made you intrigued what made you want to write there been so many books written about british history but you focus on this palace why it was buckingham palace before buckingham palace so the way we think of Buckingham Palace as sort of the

palace today, that's what Hampton Court was for the Tudors and the Royals who came after them.

And also, you've seen it. You walk through from us, you say this like Elizabethan, Tudor Kitchen,

and then you end up in Baroque ballrooms. And there's so much history in this one palace

that I thought, what if I focus on the people who've lived in

different rooms so each chapter is a different room different decade different

person moving through it and it was an embarrassment of riches Martha to be

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