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The Overall System Failure That Kept Trump In Office

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News, News Commentary, Politics

4.56K Ratings

🗓️ 29 October 2020

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Virginia Heffernan talks to Benjamin Wittes, senior fellow at the Brookings Institution and editor-in-chief of Lawfare Blog, about how Trump was able to fulfill a full term in office despite everything, and the concept of majoritarianism. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

I feel superstitious when I predict anything other than going to be a hard fight.

0:04.4

We feel good about where we are, but you know, I don't underestimate how he plays.

0:11.7

We come from different places. We're part of different generations.

0:16.2

But I quickly came to admire and love Joe as a man who early on learned to treat everybody with dignity and respect.

0:26.4

Right now, I'm asking everybody to vote.

0:30.5

And vote early.

0:34.9

Hello and welcome to Trumpcast. I'm Virginia Hafernan.

0:37.9

I went to the pole near Slates closed offices in downtown Brooklyn to vote early yesterday.

0:44.0

I'm not going to tell you who I vote for. It's a surprise.

0:47.7

But my friend Sarah had proposed we get coffee and rave the line together.

0:52.0

It turned out to be about an hour and a half. That was deceptively long because people were

0:56.4

standing in clumps based by six feet and the line with all those big gaps snaked around blocks and

1:02.4

blocks. Okay, so Sarah and I live in the same building and we voted together in 2016.

1:08.2

I was super upbeat that day. I was not one of those people who kind of knew Trump was going to win.

1:13.4

I don't really believe in those people. But anyway, I was upbeat. She was really wary.

1:18.9

So this year we switched roles. Sarah was in high spirits. Sure Biden would win. And I was freaking paranoid.

1:26.0

I felt like I'd be jumped by a proud boy at every corner. So darting my eyes around seeing skin

1:31.6

heads. And I filled in my Biden circle as black as night. I was afraid to miss any tiny spot

1:39.2

that could be used against me like a hanging Chad. Before we got to the ballot box,

1:44.5

we decided that our reversed moods meant that 2020 was going to go better than 2016

1:50.4

because we jinxed it that time with those moods. So Sarah proposed we do other things opposite

1:56.3

from how we'd done them in 2016, which somehow meant getting something very expensive, called an orange

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